Thursday, December 4, 2008

Ask Me Thursday?!!

Okey dokey .... I guess there's a first time for everything.  My Ask Me Wednesday has rolled over into Ask Me Thursday for this week.
I got home too late to finish the post ....  I did manage to answer a few of them before I went to bed.  I thought I clicked on the Publish Post button (to at least give you half of the questions on Wednesday) but I guess I hit the Save Now button.  Therefore, the previous post which was indeed started on Wednesday, didn't actually get posted until this morning.  
And the last question had to wait until I finished at least two cups of coffee.

So here we go .......  buckle up boys and girls!


Leia asks:
Hi. I have an Ask Me Wed question that may have gotten lost in the shuffle last week. At what point
(age) did you start "talking turkey" to your kids (you know, the birds
and the bees stuff)? Was
it the same for the boys as the girls? Who handled the deed (you or Jim, and
with which gender?). And if you care to elaborate, how did you go about it? Just thought I'd spice things up a little!

OK, prepare yourselves.  Make sure you're sitting down.
Ready?
Each of my girls was in ......... are you sure you're ready? ......... the first grade when we had "the talk".  Yes.  FIRST.  As in 6 & 7 years old.  Yes, really.
  
Grab a cup of coffee or a glass of wine or a shot of tequila and settle in.
Here's how it alllllllll began:

     Once upon a time, when Daughter #1 was in first grade, her lovely, doting, caring, compassionate, patient mother (OK, I totally lost you on patient, didn't I?  Hey, it's MY story, I have artistic license!) went to the daughter's elementary school to have lunch with said daughter.  What a great thing for a mother to do, right?  I'm not sure what I did with Son #1 that day, but I must've dumped him with someone ....... ummmmm, I mean, I must have scheduled an educational play date for him with another lovely, doting mother.  Whatever.
So while the lovely daughter and her lovely mother were having lunch with the daughter's classmates the children began whispering and giggling amongst themselves.  And then they did a most exceptional thing:  they began to play "Pass it On".  For those uneducated readers who don't know what "Pass it On" is ..... go get into your car, drive to the nearest movie theatre, and buy a ticket to Madagascar 2 ..... and watch it.  You will get to see the game in action. And a very funny movie.  But I digress.
     This game started across the table from the lovely mom.  She watched with interest as one child whispered into the ear of the child on his/her right and then both giggled.  Then it was passed on to the next child.  And so on.  And so on.  And so ..........  until it got to the child on the left of the lovely mother.  As the little boy started to whisper in the mother's ear the whole table exploded into, "NO!!!!  DON'T TELL HER!!!".  The little boy, being a little boy, paid no attention to anyone and continued to whisper into my ear.  And it went something like this:
Little Boy:  whispering ....... "Suzy* and Timmy* are having sex!"   (* these names are entirely made up because the lovely mom would never want to reveal and thus embarrass those two children and because she also can't remember what she had for lunch yesterday, let alone two kids' names from 18 years ago .... sheesh!).
Me:  nothing.  not a word for a few seconds .... just a wide-eyed stare at the little boy, who by now had realized the error of his whispering, and the other children at the table, who were also staring wide-eyed and quite accusingly at said little boy.
And then:
Me:  "Are you kidding me?"  then, looking at each of the children at the table and giving the kind of stare that only I can give -- trust me ....... "You all don't even know what that means.  Do you?"
Them:  "Mutter, mutter, mutter, mutter ...... kissing; in love, yeah, in love."
Me:  "So you really aren't sure about the definition, right?"
Them: "No" -- said a bit shamefaced
Me:  "Then try to remember this .... if you don't know what a word means, don't use it.  Especially when you're talking about someone else.  OK?"
Them:  "OK"

And so they all finished their lunch amid happy conversations and giggling, all of which had nothing to do with the word "sex".  They had all expelled it from their minds and had moved on to the other exciting subjects that 6 year olds discuss, like hopscotch and chasing boys and running from girls.  Except for one certain little girl.  sigh
     That afternoon when Daughter #1 came home, she put her backpack away neatly and went to give her lovely mother a hug and a kiss.  The lovely mother was probably just finishing up a batch of just-baked chocolate cookies and skimming the milk she had just milked from the cow.
Daughter #1 looked up at her lovely mother and asked, "Lovely mother, what is sex?"
The lovely mother managed to not drop the pitcher of just-milked milk and thought very, very quickly.  Then she said, "Lovely, curious daughter ..... the word "sex" means whether you are a boy or a girl.  A question involving sex is usually asking whether you are a female or a male."
The lovely, curious daughter smiled up with her big brown eyes into the face of the lovely, heavily-perspiring mother and said ......."Oh.  Okay."  And off she skipped to go practice her piano or fold her laundry or clean the bathroom.  Probably.
And the mother stopped perspiring and was quite proud of her quick-thinking abilities.  She then went outside to shear the sheep so that she could make cloth to clothe her family.

     A couple of days later the lovely mother was in her room, probably reading the Bible or some other deep book of faith, and the handsome husband was puttering around in his closet.  Daughter #1 walked into the room, plopped herself on the bed and said, "Mommy, what is sex?"
The mother looked questioningly at her child and said, "Daughter #1, I told you a few days ago what sex is.  It's whether you're female or male."  While she answered this she noticed that the handsome husband was peeking out of his closet with an irritating grin on his face.
Daughter #1 replied, "No, untruthful, yet lovely Mommy.  It means something else.  I know because I told someone at school and they told me I was wrong.  So give it up ..... what's "sex" mean?"
At this point the handsome, yet equally chicken-hearted husband said, "I think I have to change the oil in my car." and quickly fled the room before I, ummm, the lovely mom could object ... or throw her Bible at him.
So, not really knowing what else to do, she forged ahead and told her infuriatingly-curious daughter what "sex" meant.
The daughter was a bit mature for her age, having a late November birthday and such mature and honest parents ...... I mean, mother, took it all quite well and asked questions and seemed happy to have the "knowledge".  The lovely mother told her daughter that this was a discussion for our home only, and that she must not share her knowledge with other children, because their parents needed to do that (and the last thing the lovely mother needed was an irate parent calling her to yell about what Daughter #1 had said in the sandbox that day!).  The lovely Daughter agreed and all was well with the world.  Although the lovely mother did have to take another shower that day to remove the sweat, ummm perspiration, and probably went out for margaritas that night.
     Fast forward two years.  And substitute the lovely daughter for two identically lovely daughters who trap their lovely mother in the mini-van one day and ask the same dreaded question.  The lovely mother gave the same first answer she had given Daughter #1, hoping that it would work a bit longer this time ...... even though lovely Daughter #1 was smirking at her the entire time.
Alas, it worked for only about a week.
And again, the lily-livered, chicken-hearted, yet handsome husband fled the room.  Really.
So the lovely mommy launched into the same talk and filled her lovely twin daughters with "the knowledge", all the while wondering what the hell was going on in that elementary school among the first graders!  The daughters nodded gravely throughout the talk and agreed to keep it in the family.  
     One day, while the lily-livered husband was pulling into the church parking lot with all 3 daughters on a lovely Sunday morning ...... one of the daughters piped up from the back of the mini-van:
LD:  "Daddy ....... have you had sex with Mommy?"
pause
pause
pause --- Lily-livered Daddy knew that he was caught like a rat in a sinking ship and was wondering if the lovely, yet vengeful wife had set him up (she had not, but wished she'd thought of it).
Daddy: "......... ummmmmmmm, gulp, yes."
long, long pause ..... and then.....
LD:  "I thought so." ----- said very disdainfully and with an utter drop of respect for such a disgusting, yet handsome, daddy.

     I think I laughed for two whole days after he came home with that story.

     The lovely mother informed the scarred father that she was no longer in the "talk" business.  She had done her time and he was to be in charge of the male off spring and their "knowledge".

And so she thought she was.
She should have known better.

      Son #1 never asked a single question.  Not once.  So one day, when it was just about time to send Son #1 off to middle school, the lovely, yet weary mother sighed a deep sigh and then took Son #1 into the study.  She asked him if he knew all about "sex".  He informed her that he did.  She asked for his definition.  She found out that he had it all wrong and couldn't believe she was having to do this again.
So she took a deep breath and launched into it all over again.  Son #1 remained deathly quiet during the whole thing.
When she was finished she asked Son #1:
LM:  "So, do you have any questions?"
Son #1:   "Ummmm, so this means that you and Dad had sex 5 times?"
LM:  pause ..... "Yep."

And we were done.  And I think he still believes we only had sex 5 times.  Or wants to believe it.

     The last two males sandbagged me in the car.  Children do a lot of sandbagging in the car because they know you are trapped behind the wheel and cannot dive out of a moving vehicle adeptly.  No matter how hard you think about it.

So there you go.  How the I handled it.  ALL ALONE, thank you very much.
The only piece of advice I have to give on this topic is always, always, always use the correct names for body parts with your children.  Always.  They need to know that a penis is a penis and not a pee-pee or wee-wee or other cutesy name.  
It's much easier to be open and honest about this when you start young, giving them the right names.  And then give them only as much as they ask for.  
And hopefully that whole male/female thing will work for you a lot longer than it did for me.
I didn't even try it with any of the boys.
     

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

J,
That story was worth the wait!!! You painted such a picture - I was squirming uncomfortably and laughing at the same time! I passed on the knowledge to H1 before 4th grade. She started asking such pointed questions i couldn't weasel out of it (unlike my brother apparently). So we talked through the whole thing with the aid of a book a friend lent me. Three years later, H2, in 5th, me pregnant last year, not a single question. That's a boy for ya! Frankly, I'm frightened of having the talk with G. She's in 2nd grade. I may have to start home-schooling her and buy myself some more time.

And technically, you only promised to let us ASK you questions on Wednesday. You did not enter any binding agreement to ANSWER said questions on Wednesday.

Love you,
A

Anonymous said...

Ok, you certainly gave me my laugh for the day. . . or two, even! You are toooooo funny! I really enjoy your "Ask Me Wednesdays", even if they turn out to be Thursday.

And to help you on Kris' question, that's a definite YES, they know in advance. You will notice if the recipient is not there, they always have them either on tape or satelite, holding the award, giving a "thank you" speech. And if they are present in the audience, only the winner of the group nominated is there. The others are mysteriously absent. So. . . yes, they know in advance.

Just thought I'd help you out there. That's my only knowledge, though. You pretty well have everything else covered. GOOD JOB!

Love you very, very much.

Anonymous said...

To freakin hillarious!!! I laughed out loud. You really do have a way with words. Thank you for the laugh, I needed that. I too like my mother love Ask Me Wednesdays. And I am glad that mom took care of the question from Kris. thank you Mom! Love you tons!!! Oh and you too J!!

Anonymous said...

TOO FUNNY! I think you could turn that post into a successful book titled something like A REAL Kingwood Fairytale.
One question though, how did YOU learn about the birds and the bees?? (hope I'm not stepping on any toes with you and your mom - or dad!)

Anonymous said...

Great story! I've gotten to wait a bit longer, what with homeschooling and all, but the day will be coming very, very soon, and I'll be on my own, too. Dear husband just doesn't have the words. LOL Good thing the boy and I have a pretty easy time talking about "stuff".
And then come the girls. Sigh.
Amanda

Kristin said...

Too funny!

I ran across your blog on Bring the Rain.

I'm so sorry for your loss and that your heart is hurting. I'm praying for you and your beautiful children tonight as you go through this holiday season.

Unknown said...

That is too too too funny. LOL!!!! I love that Jim would leave the room. ha! :)

Anonymous said...

J,
WOW - I LOL the whole time! That was definitely worth the wait, and I agree that you needn't feel pressured to answer everything in one day. Cuz once you do... it's just pure entertainment! Thanks for the the laughs and for the important strategies.

Actually, I'm afraid that my B is has a little bit of Jim in him, so I expect he'll duck out of the conversation too if he can. (Though, I may need to consider "setting him up" for a car ride conversation.) Seriously, I've been hearing/reading recently that the "experts" advise parents to have that conversation with kids b/t 5-7 yrs, and I thought it seemed a bit young. Maybe not! I'll need to think about how to handle it with twins of different gender... I welcome any suggestions you may have. I think B is fast approaching the day that she'll ask, but I may have more time w/ S.

Anyway, thanks for the great story and the laughs. I think I could actually see that smirk on Jim's face, peeking out of the closet.

Hope you have a good week,
Leia

Anonymous said...

I could totally picture Jim's impish grin. What a completely fun story. Yes, I laughed right out loud too - very hard!

Spencer_E said...

OK, you evidently do not remember correctly, but I do. You brought be into the study and told me when I was in 3rd grade. You did tell me what "that time of the month" was in the Mustang though. As for the other two, you told them in your bedroom... when Son #2 was in 7th grade. Don't ask how I remember, these things tend to stick.

-Spencer

Anonymous said...

OMGosh I nearly pee'd my pants reading that post!!!!!
Can I bring C over tomorrow for "The Talk" cause I am feeling a tad behind- and I dread the thought of it! Even though I had to have the "talk" with son #1 becuase JD was conveniently out of the country-Come to think of it- the first time I had to tell him what sex was, was in kindergarten. Our lovely next door neighbor,who was in 2nd grade at the time and Son #1's best friend came home fromschool one day and decided it was time to tell B all about the birds and the bees- only she was Very Wrong!
Talking to B was easier some how, than the thought of explaining it to L though- I just picture her looking at me with those big brown eyes asking questions.... and me finally sticking my fingers in my ears and singing "la la lala la la" really loudly!!!! I know, I know... I'm so mature!

So, we'll be over about 3:30??? Be sure to milk the cow and have those cookies ready!!!!!
Love you, K

Janine said...

Dear Son #3 (who evidently doesn't know how to remain ANONYMOUS!),
No, I remember it quite vividly. You, however, were under a huge amount of shock and it's YOU who do not remember it. I know when it was because I was worried that you'd be heading off to middle school and not know what it was and then hear the stupid things boys hear in PE locker rooms (or that I'm assuming boys hear because I've never been in a boys' locker room. Wait ..... yes, I have but that's a story for another time!.
And I totally give you the "time of the month" story in the Mustang. That I do recall. But you, my oh-so-not-so-wise-as-you-think-Son, are wrong. Dead wrong.
But I still love you. And ... do you still think we only had sex 5 times?!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Janine said...

Marilyn,
No fair asking more questions before next Wednesday! If you want to know how I learned about the birds and the bees, you'll have to ask me next Wednesday. I'm too pooped to answer another "sex" question this week!!!

Janine said...

K,
Ummmmmmm, let me think about that for just a minute ................... hmmmmmmm, no. No way. Not at all.
I. Am. Done.
And you have waited WAY too long!!!! I will, however, be glad to provide fresh-baked cookies and just-milked milk.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Way too long??????? I still havn't had the talk with Cl (aka son #2)yet!!!
Do you think I'm too late????? I still have time, right????

LOL!!!!


Just Kidding! JD had the talk with him the other night............

;-)

Anonymous said...

One other question....

....so, the fact that T calls "it" a "wing-wing" ............thats not a good thing??????

I guess you're going to have a lot of explaining to do once T is old enough for his cell phone ;-) ;-)

M2K2USA said...

Oh, you are SO right about using the "right" words for body parts!! Our same child, K2, got me TWICE. First, when she was 5 yrs old, she was playing outside with the little BOY across the street and rang our bell so I would come outside. When I came to the door, she angrily yelled, "Mom! Zachary says I have a vagina!!! It's a pee right mom??!!!"
Yes, I was mortified.
Oh, but it gets better. Same child, K2, 8 years later. Yes, 13 years old...this just happened a month ago....we went to visit our friend at the hospital who just had a baby BOY. We were all in the room. M1, me, K2 and M2, our friend, her husband, the new baby boy and my friends mother. I ask our friend, when she will be able to go home and she said, "tomorrow, after the baby gets circumcised (sp?)" So, K2 turns to her Daddy (thankfully HIM this time!!) and says innocently, "Dad, that's when they cut skin off his dick right?" Your brother was speechless for once in his life!! He yelled at her and realized, she didn't know the correct word. She said, "I'm sorry Dad, that's what they call it at school!"
UUUGGHHH!!!! Why couldn't you have had this blog weeks ago??!!!!!
XOXO
Love you.
M1 wants me to tell you that she seriously did not know that was a bad word. She said, "what am I supposed to call it a penis?" LOL
K1 in AK
(hoping this (true)story made YOU laugh)

Janine said...

OMG, K1 (and M1) -- You TOTALLY made me laugh out loud!!!!!! That was too hilarious!! Poor baby! Shame on you and my twit-of-a-brother for not teaching her the right word!!!
But actually, I'm selfishly glad that you didn't cuz that will make me smile for quite a while.
Thanks .... and I love you guys!!!!

Anonymous said...

Just and FYI for those of you who need a good Christian book reference for this subject: Concordia Publishing House has an excellent series of books for different age levels with age-appropriate information in easy to understand language. It is called the Learning about Sex series. You can buy them at CPH.org or check with area Christian book stores.

Cheryl

m said...

OH MY GOSH, i loved that story.
love.
love.
LOVED it.
on question: which girl asked you if you and daddy have had sex and then replied with, "thought so." ? I'm putting my money on W, but L says it very well could have been K. Hmm.

Janine said...

K --
When you said "C" I thought you meant the first C, that's why I said you were too late! As for C #2, you'd better get moving girl!
And ..... "wing-wing"? I have absolutely nothing to say on that........ but give me time!

Janine said...

Monike,
Since I was not in said mini-van, and the handsome husband was still in a state of shock when he came home, I never found out which one of the disgusted darlings asked the question.
My money, however, is on #2.

Anonymous said...

The thing about the last two males was very very incorrect. You mother, should get your facts straight, P not knowing what it was, nor I, were in the car with dad and Spencer heading to church. I manned up enough to ask dad what sex was, and he paused, for 7 to 10 seconds give or take. And said in a humorous voice, "Ask your mother", so, when we got home I went into your room and asked you, when you paused for maybe 3, and said, "Ask your dad" then I told you he told me to ask you. And then you told us.

Janine said...

Ummmm, the above comment to "Son #3, should have read, "Son #1".
But let me just say that Son #3 also does not remember correctly. He thinks he does, and will say so until his dying breath, but then, he's only 14. I have quite a few vivid memories of being trapped in the car.
And had I known that my chicken-hearted, lily-livered husband had abdicated his fatherly duty by telling his two youngest sons to ask me ..... I would have caused him great bodily harm.
Something I have to remember to yell at him about when I see him!